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WhineyCMJ
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posted June 14, 2004 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhineyCMJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
39. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses (Silvertone) 1989

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Sketch
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posted June 14, 2004 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sketch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gee, I wonder where elephantstone ranked this one.

Listened to it for the first time last month. Great record, a bit poppier than what I expected having only heard a few tracks before.

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Element
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posted June 14, 2004 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Element     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Best. Record. Ever.

Serious.

This record has influenced my life more than any other recording, ever.

Long live The Roses.

-Dalen

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PopTodd
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posted June 14, 2004 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PopTodd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This would be a perfect record, if not for "Don't Stop". As a concept, it's cool, but I don't want to have to listen to it.

That said, I freaking LOVE this album. Too band the band couldn't keep the momentum going -- I do think that their second record would have been a lot better, had they been able to record while the iron was still hot.

This was the gateway record for one of my best friends. Weaned him from his "classic" rock phase into the world of the indies.

np: The Coctails - Peel

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bitterbuffalo
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posted June 14, 2004 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bitterbuffalo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
easily a top 10 album for me. listened to this non-stop junior year in college (1990) much the the shagrin of my ac/dc loving roomates. every song (even 'don't stop', sorry pop t) is flawless. the penultimate tune, 'i am the resurrection' goes down in history as one of the best songs ever recorded. it's instrumental latter 2/3's blows away 'layla' anyday. is any of ian brown's solo stuff even close to this good? the seahorses was dissapointing. i may be lambasted for this but i believe 'definately maybe' is the follow up album the stones roses should have made.

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Lemming
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posted June 14, 2004 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lemming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i can listen to this over and over again, and never get tired of it. perfect summer album.

i still like ian solo stuff. Monkey Business is a must-have; still grooves like the 'roses.

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Xisting0
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posted June 14, 2004 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xisting0     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great album. Didn't really form my musical identity at any point though. I still recall where I bought it in Talahassee and listening to it on the trip back home. I'd rank it in the back half of my top 100.

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frostingspoon
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posted June 14, 2004 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for frostingspoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would have been slightly higher overall if I hadn't forgot to rank it.

I'd probably place it in the 80-85 range of Top 100 at this point.

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DHRjericho
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posted June 14, 2004 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DHRjericho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's unbelievably great. Not a bad tune found on the album.

When i visited England back during Euro 2000 i remember riding on the train heading north to Scotland and these five drunk blokes blasting the Stone roses and Ian Brown solo stuff for a good two hours. These guys looked like the type that would happily beat you senseless in a pub at the drop of a hat. It was a wierd experience but me and my sister appreciated the great tunes despite their awful sing-alongs.

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bort
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posted June 14, 2004 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bort     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
not on my list but i like the album anyway. more importantly, it's one of my wife's most favorite albums ever. that's got to count for something.

bort
np - some austrailian pop compilation

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DunwoodyDude
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posted June 14, 2004 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DunwoodyDude     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lovely album. It's nice having the "bonus" Fool's Gold on it, but, I Am The Resurrection is such a fantastic album closer that sometimes I just shut it off after it ends.

I once heard a Stone Roses bootleg and Ian Brown's voice was atrocious. Don't know if he was having a bad day or if his voice just truly sucks.

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KonstantinL
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posted June 14, 2004 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KonstantinL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DunwoodyDude:
I once heard a Stone Roses bootleg and Ian Brown's voice was atrocious. Don't know if he was having a bad day or if his voice just truly sucks.

Was that the infamous Glastonbury performance?

I don't really listen to this much but it is an sbsolutely superb album. As has been said 'I Am The Resurrection' is one of all time great pieces of guitar music. I'd say this is a Top 25 at least but I can't remember were I ranked it so I probably should keep quiet in case I put it at 48 or something!

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BrokenWitch04
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posted June 14, 2004 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BrokenWitch04     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great album, although I've only heard it a few times. I need to track down a copy.

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swiateck
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posted June 14, 2004 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swiateck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hells yeah... They're a Top 5 band for me and this is what pop music is all about.
"Resurrection" "Sugar Spun Sister" "Elephant Stone" are all just amazing tunes and then "Fools Gold" ends it by taking a complete left turn. Makes you wonder what an album recorded soon afterward would have sounded like. That said, I like "Second Coming" a lot, too - I just have to think of them as two different bands.

One of my favorite record store finds was when the Wherehouse Records in East Lansing was closing as I was about to graduate and I snagged the import-only Virgin Records recording of what was supposed to be their debut album for only $15. It's good standard-issue Brit-pop, but nowhere near as good as "The Stone Roses."

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elephantstone
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posted June 14, 2004 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elephantstone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Element:
Best. Record. Ever.

Serious.

This record has influenced my life more than any other recording, ever.

Long live The Roses.


i can't say much more than what dalen has already said here. i think it could be just that it was the right time and place for me to hear this, but i am serious when i say this is better than any beatles, stones, wrens...whatever.

and i agree 100% with what bitterbuffalo has to say about 'i am the resurrection'.

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Dorkestra Teacher
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posted June 14, 2004 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dorkestra Teacher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love it, but didn't make my listmania. Second Coming did though...

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newt
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posted June 14, 2004 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for newt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still remember sitting in my dorm room my freshman year when my roommate brought this back from the Wherehouse records in Ann Arbor. Upon hearing the chorus of the opening song I was blown away. I ran out and bought it that same day even though I knew I could listen to my roomates all day. I took us a good week before we realized the chorus of the first song wasn't "I wanna be a dog".

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rudylaw
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posted June 14, 2004 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rudylaw     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah Yeaah!

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HideousLump
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posted June 14, 2004 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HideousLump     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Evidently, Ian Brown has a cameo in "Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban," sitting at a table in a pub and reading Stephen Hawking's "A Brief History of Time."

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z
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posted June 14, 2004 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for z     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a few weeks ago on steve lamacq's show, keith cameron (mojo) was talking about overrated albums and this one came up. he said that we all know it's a phenomenal record, but if you hadn't heard it and decided to listen to it today for the first time, "you'd expect the skies to part and for, like, god to say, "this is what you've been missing all this time." and that's just not going to happen for somebody who's been barraged with the critical praise over the years.

i have to admit to not owning a real copy of this, but i definitely plan to someday. i have all the songs though. and i've heard it in order. this dance party in philly usually ends their nights with "i am the resurrection" and it is just amazing. people still go crazy for it.

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Aural Fixation
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posted June 14, 2004 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aural Fixation     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by z:
a few weeks ago on steve lamacq's show, keith cameron (mojo) was talking about overrated albums and this one came up. he said that we all know it's a phenomenal record, but if you hadn't heard it and decided to listen to it today for the first time, "you'd expect the skies to part and for, like, god to say, "this is what you've been missing all this time." and that's just not going to happen for somebody who's been barraged with the critical praise over the years.


That comment could apply to anything that's been hyped or high on people's list of favourites.

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z
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posted June 14, 2004 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for z     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aural Fixation:
That comment could apply to anything that's been hyped or high on people's list of favourites.

yeah, i know. it's just that the stone roses are the example he used. he mentioned a ton of other albums too. to me, that stone roses album kinda has a mystique to it because second coming isn't tops. so you have this one band that's known primarily for that one incredible record and some awesome shows. and that relatively short time period has spread for so long. like, when i go out, people still go apey for anything from their debut. it's quite amazing that it's carried on so long.

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bee.ok
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posted June 14, 2004 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bee.ok     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This album simply changed my life forever. Only once in a lifetime can an album make this kind of impact on a person life and this is the one that did it for me back in 1990.

History: Before hearing music like this I was a pretty miserable person. Life was OK but I was going though my teenage-depressed-state-of-mind and was listening to band like the Smiths, the Church, Peter Murphy, Love and Rockets, the Mission, Cocteau Twins, Flesh For Lulu, and New Model Army. I hated the human species and kept a very bad outlook on life. About March of 1990 I read Rolling Stone magazine and it was talking about this so-called “Madchester” scene. It sounded so unreal to me and I knew none of the people I hung out with would be interest in this but it intrigued me. So I went over my high schools friends house and had him read it and asked what he thought. He said that it sounds different and then I told him that the Happy Mondays are coming to town and playing a gig called “Call The Cops” with them, 808 State, and A Guy Called Gerald. The concert was at the Hollywood Palladium on Friday July 20, 1990 and didn’t even start until 10pm. Meanwhile we both went out and bought the Happy Mondays album along with the Stone Roses, the La’s, and so on to see what all the fuss was about. It was like heaven and I must of played this album over and over again and after the concert I became of different person and have never looked back.

Live: In 1990 they also announced that they were only going to play NY and LA and were going to be at Hollywood High School gym. The concert sold out in four minutes and I didn’t get tickets but a few of us were going to make it in at all cost and heck we got into a few raves for free so we could pull this off but the concert was cancelled. Finally on Monday May 29, 1995 they played in Hollywood and I was finally able to see them live. That last weekend I was on a lake in Arizona and had to dive the six of us from there to Hollywood to make the show. Being LA we ran into pockets and pockets of traffic and were going to be late. So it being the Stone Roses and an opportunity of a lifetime I jumped on the divider and drove like a mad man though all that traffic. Something I would of not done for almost any other group but we made it to the show on time. I just stood there and watched John Squire play and I felt like I had gone to heaven.

It not easy to put into words what this album means to me but it changed everything about me. Yes it has been hyped and universally loved but the praise is warranted because it really did change the face of music for a short time. If you don’t own this album go out and buy it and listen to how these four guys played together. It’s so magical and so fucking talented that you wonder if they could have been the biggest band that ever was if they only stayed together and made music more quickly.

-Deon

np: Charlatans – Some Friendly

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DHRjericho
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posted June 14, 2004 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DHRjericho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My #2 i think.

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z
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posted June 14, 2004 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for z     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bee.ok:
Being LA we ran into pockets and pockets of traffic and were going to be late. So it being the Stone Roses and an opportunity of a lifetime I jumped on the divider and drove like a mad man though all that traffic. Something I would of not done for almost any other group but we made it to the show on time.

this should be a new thread - bands you'd drive in the median/divider for. i honestly can't think of any.

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papertiger
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posted June 14, 2004 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for papertiger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
love it..forget where I put it on my list, but its there. I wish I was in Manchester circa late 1980s

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bee.ok
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posted June 14, 2004 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bee.ok     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can feel the earth begin to move
Hear my needle hit the groove
And spiral through another day
I hear my song begin to say
Kiss me where the sun don't shine
The past was yours but the future's mine
You're all out of time

Forgot to say that this was my number four.

edit: If Whiney included Dalen/Elements list it would of added 100 points to this album. It is so much better then number 39!

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WhineyCMJ
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posted June 15, 2004 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhineyCMJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rudylaw:
Yeah Yeaah!

We be clubbin'.

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WhineyCMJ
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posted June 15, 2004 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhineyCMJ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the story, bee.

that's the type of stuff i like to see.

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DHRjericho
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posted June 15, 2004 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DHRjericho     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WhineyCMJ:
Thanks for the story, bee.

that's the type of stuff i like to see.


Wait a minute, is my story chopped liver or something? I know it's not as exciting but it's a story none the less.

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frostingspoon
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posted June 15, 2004 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for frostingspoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DHRjericho:
Wait a minute, is my story chopped liver or something? I know it's not as exciting but it's a story none the less.

I've got lots of stories. None of them are true, but they sound awesome.

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Zombeels007
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posted June 15, 2004 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zombeels007     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still have not heard this album. Everyone that knows me says I would love this album.

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ghosted
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posted June 15, 2004 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghosted     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is on my list, but should have been higher.

Great, unique album, with the ability to make me feel good every time I listen to it.

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dubwise
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posted June 15, 2004 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dubwise     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He said that it sounds different and then I told him that the Happy Mondays are coming to town and playing a gig called “Call The Cops” with them, 808 State, and A Guy Called Gerald. The concert was at the Hollywood Palladium on Friday July 20, 1990 and didn’t even start until 10pm.

whoa

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billy g
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posted June 16, 2004 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for billy g     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That this didn't make my top 100 and probably wouldn't make my top 200 most days is more a reflection on how much music there is that I love rather than a knock on this album. Love love love it.

I spent a few months in London in late 1989, early 1990. I played this and the Sundays debut to death on my return. Most of my friends at the time ended up doing the same soon thereafter.

Second Coming is terribly underrated...saying its not as good as the debut is no real criticism. I even like John Squire's solo material.

I was also at the same show as Bee.ok. I was actually a bit disappointed in their show though.

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